See also the bug that dependency fixes,
https://bugs.kde.org/329094

that said, I would tend be against removing the dependency.

See also the bug that dependency fixes,
https://bugs.kde.org/329094

I think the original reporter just asked for an error message if the viewer is not installed.
From the above issue:
"In case qdbusviewer is not installed it would be helpfull to get an error message."
"Expected Results:
if the d-bus browser is not installed, an error message appears"

that said, I would tend be against removing the dependency.

I don't know if qt5-qdbusviewer is widely used, I don't think it is.
Being a GUI application in the menus is strange for an obscure application.
Even if the package stays installed, I think the menu entry should go.

We can not really remove it for now:
- https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329094
- https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/khotkeys/c/31913c0a3ea019d09a88c324c7d7183832eb0828

(whoops duplicated Rex's comment).

This functionality is required for khotkeys KCM stlil, and we don't think it's worth it to split out the desktop file into a subpackage to hide the app in the application menu. So for now, we're not going to do anything...

In other distros such as Kubuntu and KDE Neon, qtdbusviewer is hidden. Do they use qtchooser then?

I'll see if I can follow up on https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411462 so we can finally remove this app from the default install

I mean https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329094 sorry.

FWIW, KHotKeys does not work on Wayland and its KCM was just made X11-only today. Given that Fedora now ships with Wayland by default, we could maybe consider removing this dependency.

We do ship both sessions on the media, but it's definitely something we could consider now, since we prefer and principally work with the Wayland session.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329094 has been fixed upstream for Frameworks 5.103, which should completely unblock removing QDbusViewer from the defalut install.

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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329094 has been fixed upstream for Frameworks 5.103, which should completely unblock removing QDbusViewer from the defalut install.

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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329094 has been fixed upstream for Frameworks 5.103, which should completely unblock removing QDbusViewer from the defalut install.

That would be great, I'm on Kinoite now and removing it is not that easy :)
I think we can remove the dependency, or convert the 'Recommends' to 'Suggests'

Might have spoken too soon; see https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/issues/60.

@jgrulich How bad would it be for us to subpackage out qdbus in Qt5 and Qt6?

@jgrulich How bad would it be for us to subpackage out qdbus in Qt5 and Qt6?

@ngompa it's kind of sub-packaged already.

The qt5-qttools package contains barely:

%{_bindir}/qdbus-qt5
%{_bindir}/qtpaths
%{_qt5_bindir}/qdbus
%{_qt5_bindir}/qdbus-qt5
%{_qt5_bindir}/qtpaths

everything else is into subpackage or fully new packages:

%files
%files common
%files  libs-designer
%files  libs-designercomponents
%files  libs-help
%files -n qt5-assistant
%files -n qt5-doctools
%files -n qt5-designer
%files -n qt5-designer-plugin-webkit
%files -n qt5-linguist
%files -n qt5-qdbusviewer
%files devel
%files static
%files examples

This will be gone with Plasma 6.

@jgrulich How bad would it be for us to subpackage out qdbus in Qt5 and Qt6?

@ngompa , any change to return qdbus? A lot of manuals online refer to this utility (for example, https://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/Tips)
On Fedora 40+, users need to figure out that they need to use qdbus-qt6' instead ofqdbus-qt6'.
Also, interesting fact that on Fedora 39 /usr/bin/qdbus is shipped not with "qt5-qttools" but with the qt-4.8.7 package.
rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/bin/qdbus
qt-4.8.7-74.fc39.x86_64

I've tried to install qt-4.8.7 on Kinoite 40. It added few dependencies (dbusmenu-qt ; ibus-qt ; qt-common-1:4.8.7 ; qt-x11; sni-qt) but qdbus command works now. Please note, that I've installed it on a clean Kinoite without packages that bring back X11 session so it's presumably safe for users.

A workaround for Fedora 40+ users is to create symlink:
sudo ln -s /usr/bin/qdbus-qt6 /usr/local/bin/qdbus