#2744 Intel GPU/iGPU GPU user-accessible stats
Closed: Rejected by ngompa. Opened by name.

I'm sorry if it's the wrong place to talk about the issue but at least in RedHat's bugzilla many bug reports/feature requests are simply ignored or linger for ages before they are automatically closed, so I really want this issue to get proper attention.

The issue is if you are a user of AMD/NVIDIA GPUs under Linux, you can get a lot of statistics about your video card without any problems.

For some reasons Intel opposes to that and insists that all this statistics is available only for the root user. This makes e.g. using applications like MangoHud with Intel graphics impossible.

An Intel developer has told me I have to contact Fedora maintainers to sort this issue out. Please do:

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/-/issues/5018#note_1239562


I'm sorry if it's the wrong place to talk about the issue but at least in RedHat's bugzilla many bug reports/feature requests are simply ignored or linger for ages before they are automatically closed, so I really want this issue to get proper attention.

If you have a recent BZ, we can connect with @jforbes about it. I don't particularly want to sidestep the whole thing on a theoretical basis, though I am aware that the kernel package has so many bugs that they are not able to effectively triage without external prioritization.

I don't think we really need to do anything here. The information is available, it just requires CAP_PERF to read it, which we don't grant to non-privileged users. That information can be accessed as root via any standard privilege-escalating process (sudo, polkit, etc.)

Then it's upstream's problem, not ours. They need to make it available unprivileged like everyone else does.

Metadata Update from @ngompa:
- Issue close_status updated to: Rejected
- Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)

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Then it's upstream's problem, not ours. They need to make it available unprivileged like everyone else does.

What an amazing response!

The Intel developer specifically asked you to come up with a proposal/suggestion and you simply say "not our business" in direct opposition to his words.

OK, let Fedora Intel users suffer and not be able to fully utilize the features of their systems without using console, hacks, and misusing root access. This will definitely make them happy.

Why do I even bother? I don't know.

Time to disable my profile here and stop bothering you. Only you have the vision and others may kindly [redacted] off.

The Intel developer specifically asked you to come up with a proposal/suggestion and you simply say "not our business" in direct opposition to his words.

It's not me who said that, it's @sgallagh who said we won't do anything. As for the Intel developer, I don't know anything to say because I don't know anything about MangoHud. I'm not in a good position to say anything upstream. I'm just one of the folks who reviews technical proposals after community discussion.

OK, let Fedora Intel users suffer and not be able to fully utilize the features of their systems without using console, hacks, and misusing root access. This will definitely make them happy.

There are a number of ways to solve the problem for applications. The easiest one is to have a mediation daemon for things like MangoHud to interact with. But ideally, the Intel developer is convinced to actually make read-only data accessible unprivileged.

Time to disable my profile here and stop bothering you. Only you have the vision and others may kindly [redacted] off.

That is not how I mean it. I can't just willy-nilly change things without either community discussion or upstream cooperation. I don't know what you expect, but we don't just do things like that.

@name, in fact, the Intel developer said he will talk to a distro representative and asked for a contact at the MangoHud project to discuss with them what to make available unprivileged. He seemed perfectly willing to work to fix it.

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