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#307 Packages to drop before F13 Alpha Freeze
Closed Opened by mdomsch.

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= Proposal topic =
List of packages that have failed to be rebuilt since Fedora 11, to be blocked in rawhide and kept out of Fedora 13.

= Overview =

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-January/129226.html
The following 30 packages, with respective FTBFS bugs, have been open
since the Fedora 11 time frame, and continue to fail to build. These
are the oldest non-building packages in the distribution, everything
else (over 8800) managed to build for Fedora 12 or newer already.

awn-extras-applets-0.3.2.1-8.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511628
evolution-brutus-1.2.35-2.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511451
geronimo-specs-1.0-2.M2.fc10.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511494
gmfsk-0.7-0.6.pre1.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511780
gnome-scan-0.6.2-1.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511591
Io-language-20071010-10.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511617
knm_new-fonts-1.1-5.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555487
libFoundation-1.1.3-11.fc9.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511470
ohm-0.1.1-9.39.20091215git.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539200
perl-AnyEvent-XMPP-0.4-1.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511749
perl-Class-InsideOut-1.09-2.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539136
perl-Jemplate-0.23-2.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538984
perl-MooseX-Traits-Attribute-CascadeClear-0.03-2.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511570
perl-RRD-Simple-1.43-3.fc9.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464964
perl-SVN-Mirror-0.75-2.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511770
perl-SVN-Simple-0.27-7.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511729
prctl-1.4-5.2.1.src.rpm (last built July 12, 2006, ExclusiveArch ia64)
python-openhpi-1.1-3.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511675
qtiplot-0.9-11.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511688
recordmydesktop-0.3.8.1-1.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538931
skychart-3.0.1.5-6.20081026svn.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539202
smarteiffel-2.3-2.fc9.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511362
synce-kde-0.9.1-4.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539195
unifdef-1.171-8.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511553
widelands-0-0.13.Build13.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511430
xpilot-ng-4.7.2-16.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511717
xqilla10-1.0.2-6.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511599
xqilla-2.1.3-0.6.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511425

If these are removed, the whole list of RPMs to then drop looks like:

Removing awn-extras-applets removes these:
awn-extras-applets-devel-0:0.3.2.1-8.fc11.x86_64
awn-extras-applets-devel-0:0.3.2.1-8.fc11.i586

Removing evolution-brutus removes these:
evolution-brutus-devel-0:1.2.35-2.fc11.i586
evolution-brutus-devel-0:1.2.35-2.fc11.x86_64

Removing geronimo-specs removes these:
geronimo-specs-compat-0:1.0-2.M2.fc10.x86_64

Removing gmfsk removes these:

Removing gnome-scan removes these:

Removing Io-language removes these:
Io-language-devel-0:20071010-10.fc11.i586
Io-language-graphics-and-sound-0:20071010-10.fc11.x86_64
Io-language-postgresql-0:20071010-10.fc11.x86_64
Io-language-extras-0:20071010-10.fc11.x86_64
Io-language-mysql-0:20071010-10.fc11.x86_64
Io-language-devel-0:20071010-10.fc11.x86_64

Removing knm_new-fonts removes these:

Removing libFoundation removes these:
libFoundation-devel-0:1.1.3-11.fc9.i386
libFoundation-devel-0:1.1.3-11.fc9.x86_64

Removing ohm removes these:
ohm-devel-0:0.1.1-9.39.20091215git.fc11.i586

Removing perl-AnyEvent-XMPP removes these:

Removing perl-Class-InsideOut removes these:

Removing perl-Jemplate removes these:

Removing perl-MooseX-Traits-Attribute-CascadeClear removes these:

Removing perl-RRD-Simple removes these:

Removing perl-SVN-Mirror removes these:

Removing perl-SVN-Simple removes these:

Removing prctl removes these:

Removing python-openhpi removes these:

Removing qtiplot removes these:

Removing recordmydesktop removes these:
qt-recordmydesktop-0:0.3.8-2.fc12.noarch
gtk-recordmydesktop-0:0.3.8-2.fc12.noarch

Removing skychart removes these:

Removing smarteiffel removes these:
smarteiffel-doc-0:2.3-2.fc9.x86_64

Removing synce-kde removes these:
synce-kde-devel-0:0.9.1-4.fc11.i586
synce-kde-devel-0:0.9.1-4.fc11.x86_64

Removing unifdef removes these:

Removing widelands removes these:

Removing xpilot-ng removes these:

Removing xqilla10 removes these:
xqilla10-devel-0:1.0.2-6.fc11.x86_64
xqilla10-devel-0:1.0.2-6.fc11.i586

Removing xqilla removes these:
dbxml-utils-0:2.4.16-0.5.fc12.x86_64
dbxml-python-0:2.4.16-0.5.fc12.x86_64
dbxml-devel-0:2.4.16-0.5.fc12.x86_64
dbxml-0:2.4.16-0.5.fc12.x86_64
xqilla-devel-0:2.1.3-0.6.fc11.x86_64
xqilla-devel-0:2.1.3-0.6.fc11.i586
dbxml-devel-0:2.4.16-0.5.fc12.i686
qpidd-xml-0:0.5.819819-1.fc13.x86_64

Of these, xqilla looks the most interesting, being used by the
growing-popular qpid work.

I'd like to propose the above list be dropped from the distribution,
prior to Fedora 13 Alpha freeze, unless the package is made to build
in rawhide before that.

= Problem space =

Removing packages which can no longer be built from source.

= Solution Overview =

Ensure the packages are never included in Fedora 13.

= Active Ingredients =

There is a qpidd-xml package which, due to its dependencies getting dropped, may have to be dropped or reworked.

= Owners =

Matt Domsch

Can we give provenpackagers some time to take care of these? I'll see what I can do to fix these, probably starting with the KDE-related ones (qtiplot, recordmydesktop, synce-kde).

I'd be happy if they're fixed by anyone, hence calling this a "candidate" list. Three were fixed overnight.

Turns out geronimo-specs is pretty central to the Java/Maven crowd, so that'll likely need to be fixed rather than dropped. See the ongoing thread on devel@. Nothing like the prospect of the grim reaper to wake people up. :-)

My concern with the provenpackager work is that I'm not sure I want effectively-orphaned packages in te distribution being propped along every so often; a clean break may be better. But if other things need them...

I agree with notting - much safer/easier to nuke them once they are abandoned - especially if they aren't in anything's dep list.

If there is no one to maintain them then they are worse than abandoned they are actively dangerous.

We orphaned all these last week.

Will block the ones that don't get picked up and fixed.

Do we need to do anything further here? Or shall we close this ticket now?
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