#457 Release Party Fedora 28 - Panama
Closed: Closed by asoliard. Opened by josereyesjdi.

In Panama Fedora 28 event at the Universidad Interamericana de Panama (UIP):
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F28_Panama

75 x Blue LATAM 1" Smalls Buttons
100 X 4"x4" Latin America Sticker Sheets
25 X 2.25" Round Fedora LATAM buttons
50 x Lanyards
50 x 2.25" Fedora Linux Hexagon

Please provide:
Name/Address: CLARISSA CECILIA CORTEZ MARTINEZ/ pty 26987 // 7270 NW 35 Terrace, Miami, Florida, United States
Phone Number: 305 599 2703
Email address: abdel.g.martinez.l@gmail.com
Last possible arrival date: 14 may

Expecting around 100 attendees


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williamjmorenor commented

Hola José

Según este hilo en la lista de correo de embajadores:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/6SC3GOJ4TXFOCKSQVNSS5XSMHZ2M6NLQ/

Las solicitudes para Release Party ahora se realizan en el track de mindshare, la parte relevante del correo es esta:

== Low Friction process for Release Parties ==

We are proposing a new low-friction process for funding release parties.
Anyone (not just Ambassadors or Advocates) can request up to $100 USD in
reimbursement for a release party. The general stipulation will be that the
person requesting the funds must provide some critical pieces of
information both before and after the event, to ensure the event meets with
Fedora's release party guidelines. Only $25 USD of the release party budget
may be used for transportation costs, and a limited amount of swag
(stickers, buttons, pens, etc.) will be sent to the organizer.

The idea is that if someone wants to get a reasonably sized group of people
together to celebrate the newest release, we'll happily buy some
chips/sodas/pizzas/snacks and send a small bit of swag.

=== Before the event ===
Open a Mindshare ticket with the following information:
* Time/Date
* Location
* Expected number of attendees
* Expected cost

=== After the event ===
Update the Mindsare ticket with the following information:
* Actual number of attendees
* Photos of the event
* Actual cost
* Any lessons you learned from the event, or tips for other events to help
them be successful
* A link to your blog post, ideally in the Fedora CommBlog, or on Fedora
Planet about the event

=== Other notes ===

  • Costs (up to $100 USD) will be reimbursed after the event. We will not
    send money before the event. No more than $25 can be spent on
    transportation. No money may be spent on swag

Al parecer estas solicitudes ahora van realizarse aca:

https://pagure.io/mindshare/issues

My understanding (as part of mindshare) is that this is a proposal still under discussion. Until official announcement is done, we should still deal with RP tickets.

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This ticket was approved

https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-05-04/fedora-latam.2018-05-04-14.21.html

I talked with @potty who indicated this swag was still needed. I am putting in a ship request.

We need to allow for longer shipping times. Even under idea circumstances 7 days is not a reasonable pack and ship window, even for most domestic services.

Last week was not idea because of RH Summit - a one-time but well known event. This ticket was approved within 5 days - which is awesome. Given that we know the Releases are coming, it isn't unreasonable to ask that folks start planning release parties 30-60 days in advance to allow for easy approval and shipping.

Last week was not idea because of RH Summit - a one-time but well known event. This ticket was approved within 5 days - which is awesome. Given that we know the Releases are coming, it isn't unreasonable to ask that folks start planning release parties 30-60 days in advance to allow for easy approval and shipping.

please stop giving excuses, my ticket was open 6 months in advance, I waited half of a year

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@bex the way you're working is not the optimal way, asking 200 stickers for a RP and waiting 30-60 days for shipping is too much, if you're interested in shipping less quantities you should able to do it fast and be able to handle more tickets.

shipping less quantities will make the ticket numbers artificially grows, in my opinion you're creating unnecessary work

Last week was not idea because of RH Summit - a one-time but well known event. This ticket was approved within 5 days - which is awesome. Given that we know the Releases are coming, it isn't unreasonable to ask that folks start planning release parties 30-60 days in advance to allow for easy approval and shipping.

please stop giving excuses, my ticket was open 6 months in advance, I waited half of a year

There are many factors at play with the ticket you closed, please do not characterize them solely as shipping delays.

@bex the way you're working is not the optimal way, asking 200 stickers for a RP and waiting 30-60 days for shipping is too much, if you're interested in shipping less quantities you should able to do it fast and be able to handle more tickets.
shipping less quantities will make the ticket numbers artificially grows, in my opinion you're creating unnecessary work

This not the intended interpretation of my statement. The 30-60 day time frame is from inception to execution. This allows time for the following:

  1. A solid event plan and understand why we are doing it. Development of talks, speakers, etc. For RPs this is less than for other events, hence the suggestion of 30-60 days and not a single timeframe.
  2. Discussion with LATAM and approval of a ticket without it having to become an emergency. This allows for there to be quorum and even a missed meeting and still meet our goals.
  3. Lots of time to market the event and take care of details to ensure the largest crowd and the best quality.
  4. Enough time to ship so we don't have to ship everything last minute over night air. This also allows for customs delays which are not in our control.

In my experience, events that are rushed out in less than 30 days are generally ineffective, even RPs.

@bex

my ticket was there for a long time and you decided to ship first the last minute tickets, and shipped using fedex, are you aware that the shipping costs worth's more than the stickers you shipped ?

using first-in first-out will probably incentive people filling tickets in advance.

@itamarjp if you'd like to continue conversation about your ticket, I suggest we reopen it there and not hijack this ticket. My policy is to ship all tickets that are approved, have complete shipping information, and have clear specifications of what is to be shipped exactly. The shipped tickets had all three of those. Yours did not.

I need the final in-country shipping address and phone number for the invoice.

Hi @bex we use this address and phone:

Name: CLARISSA CECILIA CORTEZ MARTINEZ
Address: 7270 NW 35 Terrace, Miami, Florida, United States || pty 26987
Phone Number: 305 599 2703

Hi @bex we use this address and phone:
Name: CLARISSA CECILIA CORTEZ MARTINEZ
Address: 7270 NW 35 Terrace, Miami, Florida, United States || pty 26987
Phone Number: 305 599 2703

@josereyesjdi thank you, I have that address. Can I get a final delivery address, phone number and email for where the package will go in Panama?

@josereyesjdi @potty I still need the final destination information before I can ship. Please update the ticket.

I don't understand, I already gave you the final destination.

Help! @potty

@bex

Final destination will be:
Address1: Sistemas y Soluciones de Software (Solusoft)
Address2: Curundu Office Park #50, First Floor
Street: Ruben Darío Street
City: Panama City
Country: Panama
Telephone: +507-2329222

Shipped. A copy of the commercial invoice is attached.

https://www.fedex.com/apps/fedextrack/?action=track&ascend_header=1&clienttype=dotcom&cntry_code=us&language=english&tracknumbers=632990815393387

ReportInvoice.docx

@josereyesjdi Did you get the package?

@josereyesjdi Did you get the package?

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Yes @bex thnks very much!

Nice. The swag looks great! I haven't seen it before as it has been in the US :D

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@asoliard at this point, just close it. I don't have the rights to do so. Thank you.

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